Wednesday, January 31, 2007
Big two Hearted River By Ernest Hemingway Post 2 by Daniel Wise
Soupbone 4 discussed in his or her comment on The story Big Two Hearted River, that Nick was trying to escape from the problems and sense of anxiety becvause he traveled home from War and found his home burned to the ground and was remorsefull for comming back but wished to seek sollitude by going somewhere pleasant that he remembered such as the river nearby. I would agree with him or her that they were thinking right that this caused his stress and emotional problems to build. But I have also in times of my life wished that I could just get away from my stress band problems, the frequent headaches and go somewhere peacefull. When at home I frequent a fishing lake nearby for peacefullness and its quietness because it is a place where I can think about my problems and relax and spend some time fishing for fun. But There have been times when I have felt just like Nick when I have gotten home and felt like it really wasn't there any more such as the time when my family had to move from an old house to anew one. This caused some of my anxiety and depression for several months after moving into the new house. I soon found this lake to be aplace of refuge and serenity.
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To comment on what soupbone and Daniel Webster published if Nick was coming home from someplace where things were different and/or strange, is that not just how things go in life? Whether it is actually physically moving somewhere or mentally growing out of something, mature wise, aren't we moving onto something different constantly in our lives? I, myself, have moved from this continent to the African continent off and on for 13.5 years of my life; and moved across the states and cities too many times to count. It is just part of life. As for the other, perhaps going to college, moving from home, becoming 18 or 21, getting married, having a child, aren't these all a type of moving?
I actually think change can have a both good and bad side. But it is not things that change, it is people in the world that make things change. If you want something in life, sometimes it requires change and obviously if you want something good for yourself your going to strive for it. But you may have to suffer different kinds of changing that you weren't expecting. I can actually relate to this...I wanted to get in the radiology program and once I got in, I didn't know my life was going to make a huge change.I went from being a partier to a good student that studies almost everyday.
You know change is sometimes good. It is what some of us need. But on the other hand it may not be what is good for all of us. Brook you do have to strive for what it is in life that you want. And with that striving we must also make sacrifices, good and bad. Nick demonstrated struggle and survival, which to me was a huge sacrifice. He could have looked back and become like the pillar of salt never to look forward again. With that being said there are certain things and people we put behind us and we do that with or for a particular purpose. Don't look back because you tend to lose sight of what is in store for the future. Like Nick he had to stop relating to his old friend and begin to do the things that were best for his happiness.
Change is difficult and I agree with Brook that it can have both positive and negative effects. Change can make you grow as a person by making you stronger and you can also learn about yourself. I am going through some major changes myself and as hard as it is at times, I know that I maintain my integrity. Nick can learn about who he is by dealing with the changes in his life and may also gain perspective.
I think change has positive and negative outcomes. I truly believe that you make your own destiny. Depending on how one responds to adversity will determine the path in which their life continues. Example being, if a family member passes, I could choose to feel sorry for myself and not accept it, or I can accept the loss and make an attempt to live my life. The outsome is in your own hands. I can choose to be sad, I can choose to be upset. SO personally, when I am faced with stress, headaches, heartaches, I find the best thing for myself is to force myself to do other things.
I agree with what Brook wrote about the "old feeling", about how if we stay busy we will forget at the moment what is really bothering us. I know that I have experienced this in my life, but as soon as I sit down and let my mind wonder I start thinking about all my "old feelings" again. So it doesn't always work. It only works for the moment, and then I am right back to where I was. So sometimes we need to deal with our problems and not try to just forget them.
I agree with Lindsey’s response. The river symbolizes life, Nick’s life, with the “pebbly-bottomed” and “big boulders.” Those are obstacles that he and everyone must overcome in life. As the river came to a “bluff,” we do not know what the future holds no matter how many times we try and look up stream, but we have to remember that some streams leads to oceans, just as hard times leads to bigger and better things in our lives.
I agree with what Nathalie Mena says about the grass hoppers. Although the fire has turned them black they are not changed, inside they are the same grass hoppers only they have adapted to the tragedy of the fire. People do this as well, and though you can not see it in their color we adapt to tragedy and learn to cope with it. Whatever the trouble may be, we learn to deal with it and in some ways we are changed by it but at the same time we are still the same person inside
The thing about change is that it ia sometimes a nessesity in life to have a serious change and have your life affected by outside forces. Sometimes you have to suffer a little in your youth in order to become something in the future. It all goes back to the saying what doesn't kill you makes you stronger and I beleive that is a very strong arguement. If you have gone through something before then you are better prepared for what may happen next.
I really like what TayTay said in her post about Nick being able to carry on even after waking up stiff and having to carry that heavy pack. Too many times have I had to do things that were hard and very demanding and just wanted to quit. For instance, I lay floors for a living and at times its so tiring that I can barley move in the mornings but I get up because I know the payoff will be greater than a little pain. For Nick his reward was the freedom to fish and just spend some time alone.
I also agree with what Lindsey said about the river meaning life. Life is full suprises. Just like the river you never know what will be in store for you.
I would also have to agree with Lindsey. People are constantly looking looking for future/past things. I know this is very random but i would have to quote a wise man who once said,"Life is like a box of chocolate, you never know what your going to get." Just as nick looks down the stream to where it turns around the bend life also is like that. You never know what will happen next you just have to roll with the flow
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