Monday, March 19, 2007

Ralph Ellison-Comment Under This Post


This richly symbolic, ironic, and often surreal novel describes a quest much like Ellison’s own to invent an identity independent of that imposed by society. Winner of the 1953 National Book Award, Invisible Man thrust Ellison not only into prominence but also into the vortex of the battles raging over the role of literature and art in politics, and specifically over Ellison's rejection of the "protest novel."

30 comments:

Brook said...

Ralp Ellison was born in 1914 in Oklahoma. He was named after Ralph Waldo Emerson. He attended Tuskegee Institute in 1933 and studied music. He did not began to write until he moved to New York. Ellison is famous for writing "Invisible Man".

Passage: "All my life I had been looking for something, and everywhere I turned someone tried to tell me what it was."

Correlation: I know it is usually kind of hard to correlate the second sentence of a story to someone's life, but this sentence stood out right off the bat as we were reading it. Throughout life everyone looks for somethin to achieve, but is bombarded by others opinions. Just like college for instance, before I entered college my parents tried to convince me to do certain careers or go to certain colleges. I took their advice but did not follow it. I knew there was some kind of career out there that I wanted to do I just couldn't figure it out. Finally after letting time take its course I realized that I want to become a radiologists. I always think that time will tell everything and don't always do what others want.

Difficulties: I didn't have any difficulties.

Pheurbel said...

"A Literary Knockout?" 'Invisible' by Ralph Ellison. Ralph Ellison was a writer who wrote about the "universal", not about what others thought he should write about, anger and militancy. BASIC PASSAGE: "Well, you had better speak more slowly so we can understand. We mean to do right by you, but you've got to know your place at all times. All right, now, go on with your speech.". CORRELATION: The passage and the story refer to the treatment of the black man/men by some drunk off their butts white men; and what they put this man through to get this 'reward'. It reads very stereotypical and not stereotypical of the black man/white man relationship. To think of putting the main character through all they did just to get a full-paid scholarship to a black college. This seems a terribe waste and let down to those who read literature to say that this short story "Invisible Man" is literature. It seems that Ellisons' point of view is beyond that of a racist writer. For a man, a black man, to write about this and say it is "univeral", it seems just a 'well-known' intellect using his fame for crap! If you are going to write about racial inequality, then at least have some realism in it; not this story! DIFFICULTIES: I did not like this short story at all. There was no point to it, or to the writing of it, nor should it be included in a literature college course. The tragedy is that this short story would be included in a college course. The comedy is that it is included in a college course. Tragedy can be turned into comedy by having this short story make a 'real' life point.

Anonymous said...

Open it and See What's Inside

Ralph Ellison

Born to parents who valued literature, Ralph Waldo Emerson was named after the American writer Ralph Waldo Emerson. He was born in oklahoma in 1914. He recieved a scholarship to the Tuskegee Institute in 1933 where he studied music. He was in the Merchant Marines and worked as editor of the Negro Quarterly. He alos wrote several essays.

Basic Passgae
"...i found an engraved document containing a short message in letters of gold. Read it, mygrandfatehr said...To whom it may concern, I intoned. keep this nigger-boy running."

Correlate
This passage is relating the invisible man's dream that he has involvong his grandfather. Earlier his grandfather had said that all his born days he had been a traitor because he was well liked among the white people. in his grandfather's mind the white folk dont care about the black folk they would just like them to smile and get along with one another. His grandfather felt like he was a traitor because he just glided along in society and did what made the majority happy and acted like he like it instead of trying to instigate some helpful change. So when invisible guy makes his speech and is given the briefcase with the scholarship its like he has overcome his grandfather's ideas. Invisible man went with the flow and he got a scholarship enabling him to get an excellent education. but then in the dream his grandfather gets back at him in a way by saying that he is doing just what the majority wants himn to do and that the majority is just playing him. But invisble man isnt just going with the flow, he is intelligent and letting others know that he is intelligent by amking speeches and and communicating complicated ideas. Invisble man feels guilty however because he allowed himself to be hearded into a ring and made to fight like an animal and be severely mocked, thus the guilt ridden dream.

comedy
the comedy is that invisible man gets a schoilarship by going with societies preordained way of treating people and is therby enabled to further his education.

tragedy
the tragedy is the hell that invisible man and the other men and that poor woman have to endure in the story. Invisible man is treated like some sort of animal and is belittled and shamed- like a means to an end, so he can make his speech.

Nathalie Mena said...

"Invisible Man-Ch.1"
Author:Ralph Ellison (1914-1994)
Ellison was born in Oklahoma and raised in Oklahoma City. There he won a state scholarship and then went on to attend the Tuskegee Institute where he studied music. His music influenced works such as "Shadow and Act." When he left Tuskegee he went to New York City and would eventually teach at the New York University untill retirement.
Basic Passage:
"I was looking for myself and asking everyone except myself questions which I, and only I, could answer."
Correlation:
When you are in that crucial age when you are trying to figure out what your future is going to be, you often times look to others for the answers. Ultimately you must do what is going to be most fufilling to yourself and not for others. Only you know what will make for a life filled with happiness. Whatever that may be, varies with each individual person. I know that I have made decisions in my life that others may not understand or agree with. Ultimately, I knew it was within my best interest and is what satisfied me.
Difficulties : I had none with comprehension but the passage about the woman slightly disturbed me.
Comedy : That he is able to interact with "white" people on a more equal level.
Tragedy: That the interaction is not fully equal.

vcguitarist said...

Ralph Ellison
Invisible Man

Ralph Waldo Ellison was born in Oklahoma in 1914. He was named after the poet Ralph Waldo Emerson. He was very studious. He won a scholarship to Tuskegee Institute in 1933 where he studied music. During the depression era he even joined in the communism left wing party, although that was ver short lived.

Passage: "Live with your head in the lions mouth."

Correlation: I definately can correlate this passage with my life. I am a christian and have been since I was six years old. Being a christian in todays society is like having your head in a lions mouth. The truth of the matter is that this country slowly but surely is trying to rule out christianity. It is always being looked down on and trying to be pushed out. I'm one of the christians who stands up for what I believe I don't back down no matter what odds are against me. For I know that if God is for me who can be against me.

Comedy: How he is treated "normal" among the white society

Tradegy: Even though he has his speech all planned, they bascially treated him like dirt.

Difficulties. None

cmh503 said...

Title: "Invisible Man"
Author: Ralph Ellison

Ralph Ellison was born in Oklahoma in 1914. After serving time in the Merchant Marine, he began to work on the novel, "Invisible Man". He claims that it presents the "the American theme", the search for identity.
PASSAGE: "Consider it a badge of office. Prize it. Keep developing as you are and some day it will be filled with important papers that will help shape the destiny of your people."
CORRELATION: To me it makes me think how smart the "Invisible Man" really is. And that other people do notice it. I think also that in giving him the briefcase and telling him that papers that he fills it with will help shape his destiny is telling him that he can do anything that he wants to do with his life.

sasuke said...

INVISIBLE MAN
Ralph Ellison


Author: Ralph Waldo Ellison was named after the nineteenth century poet Ralph Waldo Emerson. He was the writer and scholar who won the National Book Award in 1953 for the novel Invisible Man. He attended Tuskegee Institute on a scholarship but only started to write when he attended New York and was encouraged by his friend Richard Wright. He liked to write about the left-wing political movements of the Great Depression.

Basic passage: “I am only ashamed of myself for having at one time been ashamed. About eighty five years ago they where told they were free, united with others of our country in everything pertaining to the common good, and, in everything social, separate like the fingers of a hand.”

Correlation: I think that everyone can relate to this in one way or another in the way that people can be in an organization, but then each person in the group is an individual and has their own thoughts and ideas. The way that the army is composed of blacks, whites, asians, men, and women. They are also put in different classes in a social setting. Women don’t have the same privileges as men but they all love where they live and are willing to come together to fight for it.

Difficulties: None

Brett said...

Title: Invisible Man

Author:Ralph Waldo Ellison was born in 1913 in Oklahoma City. He is most famous for Invisible Man, but wrote several other political and social essays. He was educated at the Tuskegee Institute and won a national book award. He died in 1994 of cancer.
Basic Passage: "United for common good and in everything social separate like fingers of the hand."
Correlation: This is a classic illustration of American society: the salad bowl. America is viewed as having diverse races, religions, economic classes, and traditions, but each of these entities maintains their own identity while living alongside a person with perhaps a completely different perspective. The other view, the melting pot, holds that different cultures mix and take in parts of one another to make a new culture. I had a personal experience with these perspectives in a former relationship. I was a white dude dating a black girl in Alabama so you can imagine the occasions where both family members and random white and black people thought that we were out of line in dating because of their view that America is a salad bowl, not a melting pot.
Difficulties: none

source of tragedy: the man is invisible socially.
to change to a comedy: if he gains an identity in society.

Maggaly0326 said...

Title: Invisible Man

Intro to Author: Ralph Waldo Ellison (1914-1994), one of the most important American writers of the 20th century, was born in Oklahoma in 1914. He was named after Ralph Waldo Emerson, showing the importance of literature to his family and, perhaps, foreshadowing its significant impact on his life. While in Harlem studying sculpture his writing career began after befriending Richard Wright, editor of the "Daily Worker" and an influential African-American writer of the 1930s. Ellison went on to serve time with the Merchant Marines during World War II before focusing on his most well known novel, "Invisible Man".

Basic Passage: "I was looking for myself and asking everyone except myself questions which I, and only I, could answer."

Correlation: Everyone has situations in their lives when they wish there was an easy answer or someone else could answer the difficult questions or make the seemingly impossible decisions for them. As part of growing up and living life, everyone goes through these types of situations, but ultimately we are responsible for discovering the answers for ourselves.

Difficulties: I didn't particularly care for the story, but didn't find it difficult to understand.

Maggaly0326 said...

Comment on brook's post:
I think everyone can relate to what brook said because at some point we're all recipients of unsolicited advice. We just have to sort through it & use what we find helpful.

K-dub said...

“Conformity”

Author: Ralph Ellison was born in Oklahoma. He originally went to Tuskegee to study music, but left college. A friend in New York encouraged him to write. He was a very successful writer, but was often criticized for not being enough of an angry black man.

Basic Passage: The room filled with the uproar of laughter until, no doubt, distracted by having to gulp down my own blood, I made a mistake and yelled a phrase I had often seen denounced in newspaper editorials, heard debated in private.
“Social…”
“What?” they yelled.
“…equality-"

Correlation: I think this is part of his grandfather trying to come out. His grandfather always regretted that he conformed to what people expected of him. Now, the narrator is trying to break free of the bonds placed on him by the dominant race, but not just the race, the dominant culture. The author said it’s not a race thing. It’s bigger than that. I think the point is that conformity is the death of society and that the white men in the story are just too lazy and near-sighted to notice the eminent downfall of their way of life. The only way a society can advance is to change, but I guess watching black men beat each other is better than that.

Another interesting thing to point out is that we said in class that you can never really be yourself, you can never be totally independent because you are defined by what you are: mother, worker, friend, etc. But here, our author is named for Ralph Waldo Emerson, whose very good friend, Henry David Thoreau, built his own house, and lived off the land by himself for over two years. He had no responsibilities to anyone else and he did exactly what he wanted every minute of the day. Of course, we can’t do that in this day and age, but wouldn’t it be nice to try.

Tragedy: The tragedy in the story is that people don’t learn from their mistakes (the dominant oppressive culture) and others don’t take advantage of opportunities while they can (the minorities).

Comedy: The comedy I see is that Ellison was criticized for not being militant enough, but I think he was fighting the more important battles, but with a pacifistic and logical attack.

Chiante' said...

Invisible Man
Ralph Ellison

Author Review
Ralph Waldo Ellison was born March 1, 1914 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Literature was a destined medium for Ellison, whose father named him after Ralph Waldo Emerson and Ellison continued until the day he died spreading and cultivating his vision of America and art: the conscious protagonist and the use of blackness to break categories instead of sustaining them.
hoped that he would be a poet.

Passage
"Invisible Man"

Correlation
Do you really know who you are? What about your peers and family do they really know you? Being invisible can make you powerful and powerless at the same time.You can undermine your enemies from a position of invisibility, but you cannot make significant changes to the world. A lot of people in the world hide behind other people or something. They have a sense of fear they don't know what to do or what path to take. It is okay at times but at what point in your life do you decide to take the road less traveled. When you dare to be different you have found your place in the world.

Tragedy/Comedy
It coulde be either. When you hide behind someone or something the true you may never show. But when you step out you may be the light that needs to shine.

Difficulties
It was not difficult at all. I read the story in middle school, so this just refreshed somethings for me.

Musicman said...

Ralph Ellison
"Invisible Man"

A. Ralph Ellison was a Tuskegee graduate named after the famed writer Ralph Waldo Emerson. Born in Oklahoma in 1914, he is most known for "Invisible Man."

Passage: " It took me a long time and much boomeranging of my expectations to achieve a realization everyone else appears to be born with: That I am nobody but myself."

Correlation: People often look in many different places to try and find out who they really are. But the truth is you are who you are. Theres no way around it. People constantly try and act certain ways to please society; we're all guilty.

Tragedy: The humiliation that the man goes through.

Comedy: The enjoyment of the crowd at this mans humiliation and the degradation of that woman.

Shanna said...

Ralph Waldo Ellison was born in Oklahoma in 1914. He was named after the nineteenth-century essayist and poet Ralph Waldo Emerson. Ellison became one of the most important U.S. writers of the twentieth century when he published "Invisible Man" which was published in 1952.

Passage: "Live with your head in the lion's mouth. I want you to overcome 'em with yeses, undermine 'em with grins, agree 'em to death and destruction, let 'em swoller you till they vomit or bust wide open."

Correlation: Many times in life we have to face different dangers in which we have to stand up and fight the good fight. Stepping up and facing these obstacles make us stronger and more confident individuals.

Tragedy: The way these men were treated for entertainment.

comedy: Not really comedy.. but I like the way the invisible man looks past all the horrible things that were done to him and focuses on the good.

TayTay said...

Ralph Ellison
(1914- )
"Invisible Man"

BACKGROUND: Ralph Ellison was borin in Oklahoma in 1914. Being born into a family with value in literature, Ralph was named after Ralph Waldo Emerson. Ellison went to Tuskegee Institute in 1933 to study music but did not begin his writing career until he later moved to New York.

PASSAGE: "I was looking for myself and asking everyone except myself questions which I, and only I, could answer."

CORRELATION: This passage illustrates a very common issue. So many times people try to "find" themselves and unstead of looking at themselves for the answers, they look or turn to others/outsiders and normally don't really find themselves. When asking questions about yourself, no one can better answer those questions than yourself. Personlly, I find it's best to self reflect and only use personal experiences to answer the "I" question.

DIFFICULTIES: I had no difficulties, however the story definately got my stomach in knots.

COMEDY: He is able to interact with "white" people on an even base.

TRADEGY: Even though he has a brilliant speech planned, he is still treated terrible.

knw said...

Ralph Ellison - Invisible Man

Ellison became one of the most important U.S. writers in the 20th century when he published "Invisible Man." He was named after the poet Ralph Waldo Emerson, which can say alot about his parents. He was born in 1914 in Oklahoma. Invisiible Man is based on a set of symbols and historical allusison.

Passage:
"That I am nobody but myself."

Correlation: I think that everyone can relate to this. As we grow from children to adults, everyone struggles with "who you are." Even adults now have pressure with their idenity or their goals in life. They think they have to be a certain way,and that their kids have to be a certain way. Maybe it's just society that places us like this.

Difficulties: none

Tragedy: He is invisible to society

Comedy: Socety changes.

Brook said...

I am commenting on knw's response. All throughout life everyone tries to confirm their identity as something, but I mean I think thats what life does to us. The struggles and hardships we go through determine who we will be not just society. A lot of people do base everything on a certain way of society. But to really become yourself that is not the way to go. People do struggle to live up to a certain level or to impress others, but its not all about that when you really think about life as a whole. Its about doing what you want to do.

DanielWise said...

Daniel Wise
Ralph Ellison
The Invisible Man

Bassic Passage: "The American Writer Ralph Waldo Ellison was born in Oklahoma City ,Oklahoma on March 1,1914 he achieved internal fame with his first novel The Invisible Man(1952). He was influenced early by the myth of frontier, viewing the United States as a land of ," infinite possibilities." The close knit black community in which he grew up supplied him with images of courage and endurance and an interest in music." He went to school to study music at the Tuscegee Institute of Technology in 1933, and later he continued his studies at Harlem New York where he studied sculpture. He learned much about writting from well to do speakers and from meeting a friend and African American noverlist Richard Wright. Who taught him in his ways of litterary knowledge and who recognizewd him and his talents.

BAssicpassagepart2: Ellison talks about hisgrandparentswho survived the times the era of slavery, and his parents who had lived on up until the times of the civil rights movements. He quotes," And I amn no freak of nature, nor of history. I was in the cards other things having bheen equal (or unequal) eighty five yeares ago. I am not ashamed of my grandparent6s for having been slaves. Iam only ashamed for once being ashamed myself. About eighty five years ago they were told that they were free,united with others of our country in everything pertaining to our common good, and in every thing social, seperate like the fingers of the hand. And thgey believed it!!, " The yopunger chioldren were rusdhed from room to room , the shades drawn and the shade nof the lamp drawn so low that it sputtered on the wick l;ike old man' breathing. " Learn it to the younguns," he whispered fiercely; thenj he died. Ellison uses this expression to remind us that there is comedy and tradgedy in this story, thus the children laughing was comedy and the well the grandr dying well that was the tradgedy its easy to see this. Butr there is moree to it than that Ellison uses tyhis story to talk about the livesd of his family their struggles his struggles with society and his emotional condition.

Brett said...

i am commenting on brook's response. Your experience in choosing a college and career is a great example of the difficulty in establishing a personal identity in a society in which certain schools, careers, and goals are held in high esteem. Society will try to influence an individual to conform to its standards instead of following one's own goals. This is one of the universal points that Ellison made about the individual being in conflict with society. Great example.

K-dub said...

I am commenting on Musicman's post. I agree that people-pleasing is not being true to yourself. It doesn't show who you are to anyone and you are putting on a mask to make others feel better, which accomplishes nothing.

blh405 said...

Title: “Invisible Man”
Author: Ralph Ellison

Ralph Waldo Ellison was born in Oklahoma in 1914. He was named after Ralph Waldo Emerson. Ellison became one of the most important U.S. writers of the twentieth century when he published “Invisible Man”. Ellison was the editor for the Negro Quarterly. He also wrote a novel “Shadow and Act”.

Basic Passage: “I was looking for myself and asking everyone except myself questions which I, and only I, could answer. It took me a long time and much painful boomeranging of my expectations to achieve a realization everyone else appears to have been born with: That I am nobody but myself. But first I had to discover that I am an invisible man!”

Correlation: This passage means to me that he is trying to find himself. He is trying to figure out where he belongs in his society. I can relate this to my life, because I am trying to find who I am. I know I have a loving family and wonderful friends. I am in college trying to make something of myself, but who am I? About three months ago, my fiancĂ© and I decided that we should break things off and go our separate ways. We were together two years, after we broke up that was all I knew. I felt so lost. So now I am trying to find myself. When Ellison said, “That I am nobody but myself,” I think he is saying first you have to find yourself before others can find the real you. I am starting to put the pieces of my life back together. I don’t have a boyfriend, but that is by choice that I don’t have one. I want to be able to say that I know who I am before I try and find someone to be with and try to explain to him who I am. All I know at this point is that I have God on my side and I can do all things through him. I know that he has a wonderful plan for my life. All I have to do is be patient and trust him that everything will turn out for the good. Honestly, I am having the best time of my life trying to figure out who I am!

Difficulties: none

Tragedy: That he doesn’t know who he is.

Comedy: The comedy would be if he found himself.

blh405 said...

I agree with what Brook said. I believe that you should follow your heart when it comes to your own life. I think you should always listen to others' opinions, but just because they think that is best for your life doesn't mean that it is best. Only you can decide what you do with the rest of your life. I just hope and pray that I make the right choices for my life.

cmh503 said...

I agree with knw. I think everybody does struggle with who they really are. If society doesn't agree with how you are then you are looked down on. So I think society does have an effect on people struggling with who they really are.

Pheurbel said...

Saying 'you are who you are', it's an interesting concept. Is it really that simple? Don't we have to go through all kinds of 'stuff' to make us who we are? Is it just our past and not our experiences that make us? I think we become, over years and years of time, what our parents were, what we say and lived growing up, what has happened in our lives, decisions we have made and what we think. Nothing actually makes us, however, but rather things influence us and we make the choice to let some of these things influence how we act; who we are, or become.

Anonymous said...

I would like to second furbal by saying i do not agree with the philosophy of "you are who you are". I feel like circumstances in life are like fires that melt us. The thing is that you can pick what mold u want to be poured into. As the saying goes you can either become "bitter or better". So you can actually be who you want to be. If you dont like the way you are you can change. Change the kind of decisions you make change the way you think about stuff. The best way is by our thoughts. THere is incredible power in our thoughts. "As a man thinks in his heart, so is he." You are the way you are because of the way you think about yourself.

TayTay said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
TayTay said...

Creole said, "I feel like circumstances in life are like fires that melt us... If you don't like the way you are, you can change." There is a saying that 10% of life is what actually happens to you and 90% is how you respond. The way we choose to respond to what actually happens in our life lays solely in your own hands. I agree with Creole, that if you don't like the way you are, then just change it. You control your own life. Don't let others influence you to fall away from your innerself.

vcguitarist said...

I am commenting on musicmans response. People now a days are trying to figure out who they are. People spend a lot of money just so they can go somewhere to get alone so they can figure out who they are. There are also books and self help tapes and all that sorta things that people can buy just to figure out who they are.

Nathalie Mena said...

I agree with Chiante'. Nobody knows who "we" truly are. I believe that we are changing and growing as people each and everyday. I also agree with her comment about being invisible and its pros and cons. If you are invisible nobody will really bother you but at the same time you do not really have a voice or power. I also agree that it is ok to have fear but you should fight through the fear. When you do that you are truly living life.

Musicman said...

I am commenting on Bretts post. In todays society its still hard for people to accept interracial couples, especially as you said in the south. I don't think this will ever change. I know even my own family would freak out if I did that.